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manimanimani

Hej,

Zanima me ali je v temu res kej kesa? Placas 2500 eur za pozicijo, potem pa dobis dozivljenjsko denar.

Imamo tukaj koga ki res vlece ven denar, je res tako enostavno ali je potrebno veliko vlozenega casa in denarja, vpisnin novih clanov? Se to zdaj res imenuje oblak? Gre za nov produkt ali je to nova fora na katero dobivajo nove clane? Zapravit moras pa tudi kar nekaj da dobis ven izplacilo teh rabatov, ne? vedno je zdaj cas se komunicira, pa vsi vemo da obstaja lyoness ze preko 7 let v Sloveniji.... stara fora, nov bedak?

Mnenja so deljena. Sem mal skepticna okoli tega.

Za kakrsnekoli info bom zelo hvalezna!
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Piramida

Piramidni nateg.
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Cb_girl

Zivjo.
Na vsa vprasanja ti z veseljem odgovorim v zivo, da se na lastne oci prepricas o celotnem projektu.
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carlos-m

manimanimani je napisal/a:
Hej,

Zanima me ali je v temu res kej kesa? Placas 2500 eur za pozicijo, potem pa dobis dozivljenjsko denar.

Imamo tukaj koga ki res vlece ven denar, je res tako enostavno ali je potrebno veliko vlozenega casa in denarja, vpisnin novih clanov? Se to zdaj res imenuje oblak? Gre za nov produkt ali je to nova fora na katero dobivajo nove clane? Zapravit moras pa tudi kar nekaj da dobis ven izplacilo teh rabatov, ne? vedno je zdaj cas se komunicira, pa vsi vemo da obstaja lyoness ze preko 7 let v Sloveniji.... stara fora, nov bedak?

Mnenja so deljena. Sem mal skepticna okoli tega.

Za kakrsnekoli info bom zelo hvalezna!
Če ti hodi 2.5K jevričev odveč...zakaj pa ne bi plačala eno šolo natega??
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Razumen človek

Piramida je napisal/a:
Piramidni nateg.
Očitno so Piramidi oprali možgane, da dela 40 let za 600€ na mesec, da bo potem imel 300€ penzije in bo v svojo piramido zvlekel še svoje otroke da bodo plačevali da bo on lahko sploh živel. Dela pa za sanje svojega šefa, vsak dan pa za službo za 2€/h vlaga svoje zdravje, hahaha :D tam bo seveda za vedno na podnu piramide, pa ne zagovarjam piramid, ker so prepovedane ...

Bog pomagaj, pa še tisto je piramida ...
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Razumen človek

V kakšnem smislu nateg? Tudi mene vedno bolj zanima ...
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MALASI

Grozno je, da ljudje komentirajo nekaj, česar sploh ne poznajo, pišejo bedarije ki so jih slišali od tistega in enega... če koga res zanima Lyoness naj me kontaktira in po vseh informacijah, ki jih bo dobil naj potem sam presodi... Ne bile velike trgovske verige v sistemu, če bi bil nateg...Ljudje le ne poznajo sistema delovanja, ljudje se ne zavedajo da res ni potrebno 40 let garati za nekoga drugega!!!!
P.S.: Lyoness deluje, vendar le s celovito informacijo
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gif0šs

Ja, lyones je že dolgo na trgu. Na začetku je promoviral, da lahko kupiš te njihove kartice za plačilo v trgovinah. Sem celo poskusila, pa nekega hudega efekta ni bilo. Prihranka še manj. Zato se tudi ni razširill, ker ljudje vidijo, da je brezveze.
Kaj prodajajo zdaj, ne bi vedela, verjetno nov poskus potegnjenja keša od ljudi. Dve plati zgodbe sta zmeraj, ker se v take teme takoj vtaknejo prodajalci megle sami., ki zadevi pojejo hvalnico Potem pa verjemi. Osnovno pravilo pri takih zadevah je vedno: če je nekaj predobro, da bi bilo res - ni.
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_piroman_

Lyoness pozmam zelo dobro že več let. Poskusil in preizkusil sem vse možne metode, tudi z vplačilom večjih zneskov denarja. Po nekaj letih sem večino denarja sicer dobil nazaj, vendar obljubljenih zaslužkov ne bom videl nikoli, če bom z ničlo ali minimalno izgubo prišel skozi, bom lahko srečen.

Pozabite na to, da boste nekaj vplačali in čez nekaj let dobili večkratnik. Kar se tiče kupovanja, je popust predvsem na rednih in višjih cenah, kot jih lahko dobite pri konkurenci. Prihraniti je možno veliko več, na drugačne načine ko je Lyoness.

Ljudje, pazljivo s tem.
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Mogoče

MALASI je napisal/a:
Grozno je, da ljudje komentirajo nekaj, česar sploh ne poznajo, pišejo bedarije ki so jih slišali od tistega in enega... če koga res zanima Lyoness naj me kontaktira in po vseh informacijah, ki jih bo dobil naj potem sam presodi... Ne bile velike trgovske verige v sistemu, če bi bil nateg...Ljudje le ne poznajo sistema delovanja, ljudje se ne zavedajo da res ni potrebno 40 let garati za nekoga drugega!!!!
P.S.: Lyoness deluje, vendar le s celovito informacijo
Evo, te kontaktiram: prosim za vse informacije.
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eabc

Pa ne že spet, no!
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Mitjaoraito

Zadeva deluje, preverjeno. In po toliko letih truda se sedaj kazejo oprijemljivi rezultati. Cedalje več parterskih podjetij, tako velikih kot malih. Če bi bil nateg ne bi bilo velikih trgovcev zraven, pa se kar prihajajo. Na vsake toliko je kateri na novo - Baby center. Pa tudi sponzorji ne bi bili. Od decembra naprej imajo Slovenski skakalci na kombinezonih našitek CB.
Glede sredstev, vse kar vložiš, dobiš nazaj. Enota,da si vložil pa ostane in se ti obrestuje. Tako na kratko. O vsem bi se dalo napisati par strani. Lahko samo potrdim, da je zadeva top. Tudi sam sem zraven, če bi se bil kdo del nakupovalne skupnosti, naj pove, vse uredimo.
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nena1970

Kaj pa seminarji? Vstopnice,hoteli,hrana, vse skupaj lahko zanese precejšni znesek, ki je skorajda pod "prisilo".Lahko bi rekli da vzbudijo občutek "obvezne"udeležbe.Moje mnenje je da se ne splača.Več vložiš (časa in denarja ) kot dobiš.
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n1ky

Lyoness res deluje. Tudi sama nisem verjela, ampak sem po kar nekaj vloženega časa v raziskovanje zadeve dobila odgovor. Avstrijski oblak je že začel izplačevat pa je bil le testni - takrat je bilo še zelo malo sponzorjev, ki so delili CB kartice. Danes pa jih je že ogromno, kaj šele bo. Če koga zanima kompletna informacija mi lahko piše na [email protected]
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Tuja mnenja

Zanimivo, da Lyoness hvalijo tisti, ki ti potem takoj poturijo svoje podatke. Seveda, ker iščejo naslednjo žrtev.

I am a gold member of lyoness. Lyoness is a true scam. I can responsibly tell you this. STAY AWAY FROM LYONESS. Do not ever buy gold membership. I am going to tell you why.

First of all, I just spoke with their representative on the phone. They officially confirmed to me that all the discounts that you get in a form of cash back to your account are only redeemable towards purchases through Lyoness. You will never get any real money from them. I called to find out how to withdraw the accumulations in my cash account. They said - only by purchasing vouchers. Period. This means the stories of people making large amounts of money monthly are simple lies. Anyone who states otherwise is either a dreamer or is paid by Lyoness to say so.

Secondly, if you've seen the Lyoness videos, you've noticed that there is a complicated system of units that is very hard to grasp. Why do you think these units were created? Why not just stick with good old numbers - you spend this much, you get this much in cash, this much in bonus, this much in affiliated bonus, whatever else they may offer, everything can be expressed in dollars. No! Lyoness created units for you not to think of numbers. Why? Because if you start thinking numbers, you'll be running away from Lyoness as fast as you can.

Let's translate units into dollars.

When you, being a Lyoness member, make a purchase from a Lyoness merchant, you receive a small discount (0.5% for buying from Coles Express, for example), and a larger loyalty bonus. Of course, knowing that Lyoness charges up to 10% from the merchants, no one would go for 0.5%, so they created a loyalty bonus system. tOn top of 0.5% cash (just discovered that this cash is only redeemable towards purchases from Lyoness merchants), you receive 2-3-5% of loyalty bonus that eventually forms your UNITS. Every time you loyalty bonus accumulates to $75, you get one unit of Accounting Category I (ACI). How much do you have to spend to get an ACI? If you only buy expensive things from merchants Lyoness scammed for a higher discount, you might be able to get a unit by spending $1,500.00. But if you do what Lyoness advertises – “spend money on your everyday needs, just like you always do”, the realistic number will be closer to $2,500.00 You don’t get anything by forming a unit. The first bonus of $675 Lyoness pays you is when that unit “matures”. In order to mature one unit of the Accounting Category I (ACI) and receive $675, your entire lifeline (you, people you subscribed, people they subscribed) has to make purchases for $183,750.00, provided that the your lifeline only loses 5% of the units because of the imbalances. Yes, remember that in order to mature a unit, you have to deliver 70 units under it. 35 above the centreline and 35 below. So, if you have 335 units above the line and only 34 below, your initial unit will not mature until you get one more unit below the centreline. Smart, isn’t it.

Let’s take this number for further calculations. Since you are not allowed to market Lyoness to people you don’t know, and you are only limited to your friends and acquaintances, you can organise them yourself to make large purchases collectively and realise much higher discounts without being a Lyoness member. A 10% discount on total purchases of $183,750.00, which is relatively easy to negotiate these days, is $18,375.00, not $675 generously promised to you by Lyoness.

To mature a unit of the Accounting Category II (ACII), you have to accumulate 60 units of the ACI, so multiply $183,750.00 by 60. You underline will have to spend a total of $11,025,000, to mature one ACII. All for you to receive the most generous bonus of $1,275.00 from Lyoness. When is that going to happen?

To mature an ACIII and proudly receive $2,400.00 from Lyoness. Remember, this is not real money. Only spendable within Lyoness merchant network. So, to mature an ACIII, you lifeline will have to accumulate 50 ACIIs, meaning to spend $11,025,000.00 multiplied by 50 for a total of $551,250,000.00.

To mature an ACIV, your lifeline has to accumulate 25 ACIIIs, so multiply $551,250,000.00 by 25. You lifeline will have to spend $13,781,250,000.00, and you will receive $7,200.00 from Lyoness.

Finally, to mature an ACV and receive $24,000.00 from Lyoness... Wasn't that you goal? Are you ready?... Completely ready? Sitting down, listening to the drum beat, waiting for the number?.........

To mature one ACV, your lifeline will have to accumulate 25 ACIVs, meaning they will have to spend $13,781,250.000.00 multiplied by 25 for a total of $344,531,250,000. Three Hundred Forty Four BILLION, Five Hundred and Thirty One Million, Two Hundred and Fifty thousand dollars spent by your lifeline to receive a generous bonus of $24,000. So, when do you think all your relatives and friends that are *** enough to subscribe for Lyoness membership will spend that much money if they start today?

This is 0.00000007% of a discount. Imagine yourself walking to a local retailer and asking for a 0.00000007% discount on your purchase. (Especially if the purchase is for one third of a trillion dollars) There is no way for you to get that discount without Lyoness, of course.

As internet marketers say, BUT WAIT! THERE IS MORE!

So, if Lyoness negotiates a discount of 10% with the merchants, and you only get 0.00000007%, where does the difference go? Oh, yes, you get a regular discount of about 2% that is given to you in a form of cashback and is, by the way, taxable. We are still missing about 8%. Let’s not count 0.00000007% anymore. You’ve got to be Lyoness to call it money. So, on a $344 billion dollar purchase, Lyoness pockets about 8%, which is somewhere in the vicinity of $30 billion dollars. Not that it’s going to happen. All I’m trying to illustrate is that Lyoness gets you to run around subscribing people for 0,00000007% savings (not real money) and they get 8%. Isn’t it a little bit too fat? And if you have so much free time, wouldn’t you be better off just visiting your local stationary wholesaler, buying $10,000 worth of stationary from him at a 20% discount and selling it to the same relatives and friends? You’d make a solid $2000 profit over a school season, and your relatives and friends wouldn’t call you a scammer.

Another thing Lyoness doesn't tell you is that to use their system, you, all the people you refer and all the people they refer will have to permanently change their shopping habits. Have you seen many people happily changing their good lifelong habits over a 2% discount? Well, these are the people you will have to find and subscribe to earn your pennies from Lyoness. Now, if you want to make a little more pennies from Lyoness, these people will have not only change their shopping habits, they will have to be actively running around finding others alike and subscribing them to Lyoness. What a job! What a pay!

Do you buy from Woolworth? Well, forget it. With Lyoness you only earn your bonuses if you purchase from Coles. You probably know, that in most cases you have to purchase vouchers and gift cards of the merchants you want to use before you can get any benefit from Lyoness. That means, you buy a $300 gift card from Coles, wait for a week or two for it to arrive in the mail, and then, every time you walk by your favourite produce shop that's not a part of Lyoness, you have a dilemma. You can go and buy low priced quality produce from your favourite shop or you can buy Coles *** for about 50% more, but you'll get a 2.5% discount. And you will go and buy from Coles because you've already spent this money. That's right. You've already bought the gift card. Whether you use it or not, it is your problem now. Lyoness has already made their money and Coles too.

One of the few freedoms we have left in the modern society is the freedom to buy what you want and to spend your hard earned money the way you want. You don’t vote for the Prime Minister of this country. You don’t vote on carbon tax, bank deposit levy or cigarette tax. You don’t have those freedoms. Yet you still have a freedom to vote for your favourite shop by going there and spending your money. Lyoness takes this freedom away from you. From the moment you join Lyoness, you'll be buying from merchants that pay Lyoness to be in the system. You will have one freedom less. Form many people this is their last freedom.

This all means that you will be running with your tongue on your shoulder subscribing other people (paying $1.5 for each subscription from your pocket, by the way), convincing your friends and relatives to join Lyoness in a hope to get some retirement passive income for yourself, and at the end your entire lifeline, including yourself, will realise that the system is a pure scam. It takes your freedom away; it pays pennies for major inconveniences; and a little bit more pennies for hard work of selling memberships.

Stay away from Lyoness. Spread the world about this scam.

Review about: Lyoness Membership.

Monetary Loss: $3000.
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Tuja mnenja

Here is my experience with lioness.In the time around five Years ago I"ve met lyoness lady, she were visiting my lessons of yoga.

After couple months, she offered me perfect business in lyoness. We yoga people used to trust each other so I did and invested on her recommendation over 5000 Euro in Asian Marketplace.

Till now I see no chance to get any single Euro back, because I refused connecting other people in this bs business.I'm Sorry for this kind of people who are willing to build their businesses on account of bugling their trusting Friends This is really one's of the most poor way of leaving.
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Tuja mnenja

A Key Lyconet Leader named Chris encouraged me recently to invest $15,000 into a CLOUD BALANCE PROGRAM with a projected ROI of 100% in 2 years and I didn’t have to recruit others.

I’m now told these so-called CLOUDS are legally proven PYRAMID Schemes and I may not get a ROI for over 10 years, if ever!

I have requested that my $15,000 be returned to me, but Chris and Lyoness/ Lyconet/ Cashback World will not return my calls.

I suggest that you STAY WELL AWAY from these SCAMMERS!
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Tuja mnenja

We invested money which we were told could be refunded and when we were calling to make a refund we were flatly told NOT POSSIBLE.To be able to get back $3k, we should complete the $30k then get the refund.

HA HA HA! It has been almost 5 years and they are using our hard-earned money. And of course, each time you call, they give you a round about and then you realize you are talking to 10 different people witb 15 different spiels.

We just gave up.But yes, they got a total of $7.5k from us.

Review about: Lyoness Customer Care.
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Tuja mnenja

Cashback World (Lyoness) judged a PYRAMID Scheme in Norway https://www.businessforhome.org/2018/01 ... in-norway/ In its homeland Austria, Lyoness has been declared a pyramid scheme by four independent civil courts!!It is suspected to be a pyramid scheme in several of the countries it operates in.

Is your country one of these under scrutiny/ investigation? Switzerland has already identified Lyoness as an illegal SNOWBALL System.
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kok retardirani

Ali pa obupani in sanjasko naivni morate biti, da verjamete, da vas lahko neko vlaganje v sistemcke pripelje do bogastva?!? Ste sploh opravilno sposobni? Prav hudo mi je za vas,ki nasedete tem bedarijam.